So after reading this forum and discovering mechanical group sets are heading for extinction and my 20y/o shimano crank is 15 years past it’s expiration date I have pulled out both my “old man “ card and my credit card and ordered a Campagnolo group for my ti Merckx…… this place can be expensive….(actually needed to regear it for a trip to the mountains and been planning this for awhile). Looking at the price of cassettes and chains plus starting with new chainrings and derailleur pulleys I am thinking this would be a good time to start waxing chains again. Just wondering if anyone is doing this now if they are using connecting pins and peening them, Campy chains with a connecting link, or a different chain? Have there been any issues if using connecting links or different chains? Thanks for any insight
Boom…have been waxing campy chains for 3 years now. I run two chains…Chorus and record on a SR EPs group. This is 11 SPD btw. I also run 2 sets of wheels, with the race set having a 10-27 cassette. Waxing my chain has been life changing. I run a wipperman link and a kmc. I keep a few kmc links running, and change them every few months (for safety). The only issue I have is Chain skipping on the 10 tooth cog. Not bad on the kmc link, but horrible on the wipperman. I run a 50-34 on the front. Therefore the best solution imho is 52-36 on the front and 11-29 on the rear…them chain skipping non-issue with link. Hope that helps.
I hot wax (Silca) 11 speed Campagnolo chains and join them with Wippermann links. Works fine but I refresh every week (~200 miles) to ensure the chain is quiet and well coated/lubricated.
If you’re using 12 speed Campagnolo, Sram Eagle power links are also a good option. Works great with my 12s Chorus setup with wax.
Why KMC? Don’t like the Wipperman links?
Good question…main driver being the issue with the 10 tooth cog. I do a lot of racing, and with the 10-27 on the race wheels, skipping was killing me on the sprint!! Generally, the Wippermann is a great link, and much easier to use (no tools required). Once I swap my front chain rings over to the 52-36 and run the 11-29 as standard, I will probs go back to the Wippermann.
Yep have been using Sram Eagle link for a few years now with 12 Speed Super Record chain. I run two sets of wheels but generally find one chain ok. I find waxing is just as quick as thorough clean and lube alternatives if set up. A few steps but each is quick and easy. It also joy if you mechanical keeping hands and gear clean.
I do not doubt the waxing of chains at all.
But I actually find it quite therapeutic taking the cogs off the freehub and individually cleaning each one. I used to soak the chain in a detergent, clean with an old tooth brush then with a rag I would roll the chain over many times till I was satisfied it was clean enough.
Yes it takes some time but it’s the quality of the time and process with the end result very satisfying.
I would assume those that do not appreciate this process would not be riding tubulars much either?
I am using YBN waxed chains and connectors on my Record and Chorus roadbikes with no issues.
But is anyone waxing Ekar 13sp?
I stripped and waxed the original chain, but after a service the LBS replaced the chain with a factory grease version and they said that Campy chains work much better with wet-lube, so that is the current state of affairs. I dont like the fact now that my chain and cassette get much more dirty now - it is a gravel bike after all. I’m thinking of going back to waxing - I’m also running a 9-tooth cog. So anyone waxing 13sp?
Running wax on 11 speed Campag, with KMC joining links. 1 record, 1 chorus and 1 KMC gold chain on rotation. All equally happy with wax. I run 52/36 with 11-25 to 12 -29 cassettes depending on terrain and state of fitness!
It’s definitely the way to go. These 3 chains have been in rotation for over 15,000km with still negligible wear and a clean bike, although I try to use a different bike if the roads are wet.
The only pain was the initial stripping of factory grease.
I use pure paraffin wax with 10% 1.6 micron PTFE added.
Find a new LBS, this one doesn’t know what it is talking about.
i started waxing chains when i installed a chorus 12sp groupset a couple of months ago. i use ybn master links and have had no issues at all (except my campag chain tool hates me now)
Yep. Greatest respect to LBS’ but unless you’re using bog standard cheap Shimano kit, they probably won’t understand your setup.
I am using Ufo Drip on my Ekar chain. Cleaned it well before to have all the factory crease removed. Works wonderfully. I don’t see a problem doing it.
The factory grease was exceptionally gunky though and outgunked the stuff Shimano uses by a mile. Of course, all manufacturers praise their own greasing of the chain as being sublime.
I also have three chorus chains in rotation, KMC links on a Campag Chorus 11 speed setup; 12-27x50/34. After 18,000, also negligable wear and a clean bike. I use MSW, rewx two chains at a time at about 300k, change quicklinks after about 5 uses/1500k; precautionary approach. All riding on bitumen, some damp weather.
YBN chain and links. Run 11 and 12 speed versions on road, gravel and MTB. All bombproof with no surprises.
I run 12sp Chorus with Eagle power links and Silca hot melt. Works great.
Yeah, Campy chains come with some tenacious grease on them.
I did the same thing.
Mechanical 12 speed Record rim brake, Campy Bora wto 33 tubeless wheelset, on my 10 yer old ti Moots. Wonderful!
I Silca hot wax before installation and pin the chain per Campys instructions and then just use Silca SS drip wax very 125 miles. Easy peasy and 0% wear after 1000 miles
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