New road shoes--how often?

Sidi shoes last ten years easily, prior to the most recent editions the upper would conform beautifully to the shape of your foot.

Why replace if you are happy with your shoes and they still do what they are built for…? I question peoples propensity to replace for the sake of replace, a disposable society today.

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I had a pair of the original Shimano road shoes w/ carbon soles (circa 1992) that I used for 20+ years (with a few others being used at the same time in later years). This includes having a strap / buckle riveted on after shred through one of the Velcro straps in a crash.

I have a pair of Specialized shoes from 2006….was still using them occasionally through last year. Still incredibly comfortable.

My Tri shoes are ~8 years old, I think.

I also have 2 pairs of MTB shoes (one Answer, one Shimano) that are ~20 years old……but I don’t MTB anymore and just use them for gravel. I finally bought new shoes this year for The Rift.

Oh yeah, definitely.

I actually had Sidi shoes before I moved to Lake. Gave the Sidi shoes to my brother, and he still uses them.

At some point I developed some foot pain… and it wouldn’t go away. Went to a cycling-shoe specialist and when they measured my feet they turned out to be larger (wider) than my Sidi shoes… so that’s why I bought new shoes :slight_smile: :smiley: .

Now… whether or not my feet were always wider than those shoes… I don’t know. Maybe I’m just getting old :sweat_smile:

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^This, sort of, except I have odd shaped feet.

My 3 year old Mavic Cosmics bumble along because they fit just about well enough, though I get some discomfort towards the end of long rides. In that 3 years, I have tried 5-6 other pairs, all of which went back.

I had a particularly frustrating experience with Lake. I diligently measured my foot (twice), looked up the model number, added 3-4mm to the length, and ordered (a pair in standard width). They were too short and too narrow. So on Lake’s advice, I returned them, went up half a size and ordered the wide fit: these shoes were hugely wide at the ankle/heel and I got heel slip. They went back too.

My search for road shoes I’m completely happy with continues.

I bought a pair of the first generation Specialized S-Works road shoes in 2010. Those fit well at the time. As time went by, I started to get the sense that maybe they didn’t work as well as I’d hoped. Plus the first generation Boa dials were not good. They wore out yearly. I commend Boa for offering a lifetime warranty on the dials, and I made it a routine to order a new set at the end of the year. For both the road shoes and the pair of S-Works MTB shoes I picked up from eBay. It was a pain to thread the lace through the housing, but I got the hang of it, plus I did at least get to practice twice a year.

Eventually, both shoes started to not work so well for me. I’m not sure exactly why. I now know that I was using too little arch support, but I think it was more than just that, and the MTB shoes’ closures were feeling too tight and causing discomfort, plus that the shoes were too stiff. I may be still in the experimental phase. I eBayed a pair of S-Works 7s, only to find that yep, it was the closures. I sold those. I’m currently on a pair of Giro E70 knits, and I find that they currently work, albeit not perfectly. The frustrating thing is that I’m not sure I can articulate exactly how they aren’t perfect, aside from the fact that they are slightly on the narrow side in some parts of the shoe (albeit I’ve compensated by skipping a hole when tying the laces). On the MTB side, I’m on a pair of Shimano XC7s, and those should be wider overall than the Giros. I think those work as well, but I sometimes get a bit of foot discomfort - and I am not sure why.

So, I’d like to buy a pair of shoes and run them until they disintegrate, but the problem is that even if you’ve got a sense of what first you and you know that something feels good at first try-on, you aren’t absolutely guaranteed that it will keep working later on. Bontrager has a 30d satisfaction guarantee. Giro has 60d. I’m not sure about others. In terms of sustainability, I don’t know for sure what happens to a returned shoe, but I have a suspicion that a lot of them end up in the trash. If you were given a shoe that looked like it had been worn, would you complain? I bet a lot of people would. On one forum I’m on, people were complaining that sometimes Competitive Cyclist was sending them shoes that weren’t in the original boxes.

Sidi are notoriously narrow, even their mega sizes (their version of wide) are narrower than some companies standard sizes. The amount of people wearing Sidi’s whose feet don’t fit the Sidi lasts is astounding, really the perfect example of brand recognition coming before practicality.

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I don’t have a specific timeline for new shoes, buy them as I need them. I just bought my fourth pair in the last 20 years though so, call it 6 years and a bit per pair. Spend the money on a quality shoe and they last pretty long.

I believe - but could be wrong - that Sidl Mega don’t actually have a wider last, just a bigger volume of shoe on top of the last (if that makes sense).

Honestly, I’m not even sure Sidi knows what they are lol… but they do refer to it as the “mega last” and claim it’s 6mm wider than their standard.

The Mega shoes have 2 extra mm on each side, at the level of the metatarsal area. They are 6 mm larger than a normal shoe, yet keep the same volume and guarantee all the characteristics of a performing product. Mega simply means wider.

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From the specific description in that graphic, it appears that Mega Last is wider heel cup and larger volume upper attached to the same sole. So, it is a Mega “last.”

It says literally the opposite… “at the level of the metatarsal” means that they’re adding the width just behind the base of your toes, where your metatarsal bones are. The heel is the calcaneus. The Mega uses a different sole, and a different last.

More to my original point that their “wide” fit isn’t wide, mega apparently adds 6mm of extra width compared to their regular fit vs shoes like Lake and Bont where a wide adds 15mm or so of width compared to their standard fit.

There may be a distinction between an actual wider outsole and a higher volume last. I could read that quote from Sidi as they’re using their normal last, but the uppers are bigger. Apparently, most “wide” shoes do this. A minority, like Lake and Bont (maybe just those two), actually make the outsole wider.

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You could read that quote however you like… but the “mega last” remains a different last from the regular last. It’s always impressive how some people just want to argue irrespective of whether they actually have any clue as to the correct answer.

Sidi has three lasts; regular, mega, and womans.

You could read that quote however you like… but the “mega last” remains a different last from the regular last. It’s always impressive how some people just want to argue irrespective of whether they actually have any clue as to the correct answer.

I was attempting to clarify the difference between high-volume shoes and shoes that actually have wider outsoles. I’m drawing from this Bikeradar article.

Also, the bit you quoted was a mis-statement on my part. A last is the foot-like shape that they build the shoes around. So, it’s true that Sidi have 3 lasts. What I should have said was that I suspect the outsoles may be the same width.

You can live your life as you please, but maybe it’s better to assume that people are trying to honestly engage with you rather than trying to challenge you.

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I’m still not clear on what you’re trying to say aside from you disagree with something for some reason.

The outsole is the outermost ground facing part of a shoe… the tread on a traditional shoe, the cleat interface on a cycling shoe. Can’t say I know whether Sidi uses a different outsole on their mega shoes but, since it has literally no impact whatsoever on fit, I’m not at all sure how that’s relevant to what we’re ‘honestly engaging’ about.

If you find a shoe that works really well I recommend buying a few. Finding a “new great shoe” is pretty expensive and often fruitless. I really like my old Shimano R321s. I found another pair on eBay recently and purchased them. This is not a play for Shimano 321s but the strategy of having several pairs of shoes you have had success with. I agree with one of the previous posts about keeping old shoes for messy days, travel, etc.

FWIW, the best way to order shoes is via the Mondopoint (if available) or size in mm.
The length dimension does not refer to the length of your foot, it refers to the length of the shoe footbed - so if you have a 285 mm length foot, you have to order a 295 mm length shoe - otherwise the show will be around a cm to small in length.

Most shoe fit scales state the opposite - ‘order your shoe as per foot length’ - which is nonsense.

Sometimes full custom is worth it.

I’ve read many good reviews of LAKE’s, I’d like to try those one day.

Lake make the best shoes I’ve ever worn, by a large margin. Recently swapped my old CX402’s for CX403’s and I run MX241’s in the dirt… all three of been exceptional in really every way.

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